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Stand up first gig feedback- some comments emailed/said to me.
(Thanks to Cat, Lena, Sally B, Lou, Chris)
1.What you liked, enjoyed about my performance
- I thought your performance was really enjoyable and different. I felt like I was swept up in a tangent with you, had no idea where it was leading but with hilarious results! I wasn't sure at first how it was going to come together. What I really enjoyed was the fact that you didn't deliver joke after joke but lead us into a strange narrative and didn't pause for reactions or laughter. Just kept on and we had to listen to keep up. Both halves of the performance were very funny (by the second half we trusted you to continue to be funny).
- liked the keen fashions and taking the mic off the stand. like the storytelling aspect
- it was quirky and very different - opened my eyes up to the bizarre world of wreaths!
MY REFLECTION- definitely like the different comment and strange narrative, tangential- my aim to be! But how to work on this so its kept to time and tangent is still ending up relevant.
2. What you didn't like so much, what could i work on more
- i don't know how to work on it, but it's mainly the nerves. audiences respond well to confidence but often people are shy about laughing - they don't want to laugh when no one else does (well most people) and take their cues from each other and you. if you get up there and believe you're going to make them laugh they start to believe it.
- try not to read out comments. try to memorise them. the funeral wreath photos were bloody funny but reading from notes made it feel a little like reportage rather than a routine. only a little mind - don't think many people would've noticed.
- I think the beginning bit about the owls was weaker than the second half - maybe it needed more explanation
MY REFLECTION- the owl material needed greater embellishing and being more fluid – up the pace- it came out piecemeal due to nerves. The flickr comments were from a page off the internet supposed to reinforce the flickr source but maybe re-think?
3. Did you feel 'in the moment' at any points, if so when more, or if not, when not
- When you were talking about something that made you smile it felt really genuine, you came across as enthusiastic. I felt in the moment when we really began to laugh in the first half, maybe it was when you were talking about granny making her evil smells! And then when you showed the first pictures from flickr.
- not entirely sure what you mean by in the moment but did laugh hard at the funeral stuff. the owls story was funny but more of a smile funny than a chuckle.
- I definitley felt in the moment when you were talking about the wreaths
MY REFLECTION- its about me holding the attention, engaging in what I’m saying or doing- keeping the intrigue
4.The storytelling- structure, fluidity, engagement with it, interest in it
Your pace and enthusiasm seemed better in the second half, you were more confident
-I suppose the beginning is delivered in a surreal story where we have to trust that you are taking us somewhere interesting/funny – when you are funny in a delightfully odd way we are with you. Then you can talk about the nanny/cats and maybe keep this to two funny points, then lead to the tributes and again keep it short and sweet. Hit us with some really funny ones and then leave us laughing!
MY REFLECTION- needs to be tighter, more on the surreal- world’s colliding
5. The stories about granny/owls- any comments good/bad
- It seemed rough, but could work because it helps paint the portrait of
your gran.
- not sure that all of the audience followed this. i liked it but when you go into that level of detail it's something that you need to work more on or even revisit. more stuff about owl wreaths maybe? a mock up of how it would've looked with the ball of wool bum owl?
- I think it was funny but maybe a tad too long about the owls
MY REFLECTION- owls either needs to go or weave into the cat wreath section.
6. I was going to bring out owl ornaments as props/photo of the owls on the toilet shelf- would this have worked/been needed?
I really think you're good with the props and that your relationship to objects and the narratives you build around them is really strong and interesting in both live art and stand up contexts.
- I think it could work, but you'd really have to play with timing, tone, and how you present the objects to us.
- I don't think you needed owl props as I found your description vivid enough. I think most people can bring to mind a similar collection of something in their granny's loos!
- may be a bit fussy to set it all up but might have helped people visualise the different owls
- Yes I think ornaments or pictures would have really helped as it was difficult to imagine which is perhaps why I found it less amusing
MY REFLECTION- Not sure I need to physically visualise everything- needed better storytelling as this could have been too lazy?- leave some parts to mental picture or build up something in a completely different way to what it I then produce it looks like?
7. Stories about nanny/cats- any comments good/bad
- The cat hair on the drink was good and very evocative, can just visualise you and your bro looking at each other while drinking from them. That triggered memories of how awkward you can feel as a kid when something is really grossing you out but you live with it out of politeness.
- cats & nannies always quite funny - especially when both are incontinent. not sure the cat hair round the rim of the glass had a punchline. more of a statement that you got it and your bro didn't. explains the cat hating but maybe could go deeper?
MY REFLECTION- many different reactions to the cat hair part- and for the live art version- needs revisiting- what sort of humour am I exploring? Why?
8. Thoughts on the floral tributes section- what i said about them including use of images, could you see them ok, did they work being held?
- You could cut down some of the comments left by people on flickr and take more time to deliver the ones you leave in. I think it will have more impact if it's short and succinct with fewer examples as the first ones were really hilarious.
-Could see the images very well and I think they enhanced that section. It was something different and we weren't expecting it.
- could see them fine. in that type of environment don't know how else you could do it without causing quite a kerfuffle. you don't want to loose minutes to set up time
MY REFLECTION- yes to keeping it in weaving into the imagery the cat story so whole set has photo element? How to display in the 5 min set??
9. If i was to develop this floral tributes visual section- any suggestions how?
- just work on the pacing. The photos are hilarious. You just need to really practice how, what, and when you comment on them.
- I don't think it needed anything - it was perfect
MY REFLECTION- pacing and review comments- do I need the flickr names?
10. To turn from a 9min to a 5 minute set- which should be definitely kept in and what to lose
- it built up to a peak and guess if you've got stricter time limits next time you'll have to find a way to get there quicker.
- liked the structure but if going to have less time need to compress the first half. it was fluid, with less nerves would be even more so
- Lose the owls if you have to as the wreath stuff was enough material on it's own
MY REFLECTION- if I do something with the owls the worlds colliding needs to be shorter and funnier- weave around the photos, find owl floral tribute?!
11. How i came across as a performer- entrance, across the set, my confidence
-Stage presence - might be interesting to play with extremes a bit more for on stage. There is that difference in proximity. When you do stand-up as with any traditional acting, you have to "play to the back of the house" which means amplifying everything you do so it reads. You had this deadpan, slow, deliberate air about you when you walked up on stage and I was interested to think that you might do a really bored, almost monotone presentation of your cat story. I think that could potentially be really hilarious. Kind of along the lines of when you have your serious air in your closet pieces and look around at the audiences. It might also be interesting to try punctuating that with bits of extreme manic-ness where you talk really fast and/or maybe start pulling lots of tat out of a box or a bag.
- When you came on the stage you moved the mic but I don't think you looked at the audience. So maybe you could look at us and smile if you did that again. You then have our attention and it looks like you're in charge. Once you got into the flow you came across as confident and enjoying the experience. I think you played with your hair a couple of times which betrayed your nerves, if you didn't do that I wouldn't have known.
- good stage presence. a little nervous but that may be cause we're friends. think others only picked up on it when you paused.
- You came across as coolly (is that a word??!) confident and composed....you had a really good dead pan quality....very dry. Nice recovery from corpsing too, you did really well
MY REFLECTION- I was horrifically nervous and glad I did this in the run up to the MA show for confidence building- as relaxed and enjoyed it after a minute! MUST push the deadpan- practice this looking bored- very Martin Parr : |)
12. if you were to describe my stand up persona - what would you say?!
- Your stand up persona is interesting because you started with something quirky where it wasn't clear how we would relate to it, then you won us over through being really funny and then the flickr tributes were a different kind of humour, though still on the quirky animal tip the humour was more mainstream. I think it was interesting to have the two together as it meant I wouldn't always know what to expect from you, wouldn't be able to pigeon hole you. You know sometimes you get quirky female comics who play for laughs either through doing the desperate and slightly scary act or downright weird, yet you were something else, a bit more on our level but with the possibility of going in unexpected tangents.
- persona seemed like you.
- Quirky, off beat, dry, witty
MY REFLECTION- supposed to be me- pleased that came across. The humour being more mainstream with the images needs work- weaving with owls/cats should help. Consider more entrance/exit.
13. Your overall thoughts
- I felt like you really came alive once you had the photos to play off of. Definitely focus on that.
- A flat beginning but after your pause it was hilarious- you were storming!
- I think you have something genuinely funny and different to offer!
- The narrative was really strong.
- great stuff!
- I was very impressed and think you're very brave....and funny too! Well done
MY REFLECTION OVERALL:
My aim was to try out and expand on the MA show material, explore spontaneity, intimacy, being in the moment. Lots to take form this gig, to refine for the second one on 21st August. A woven tale of imagery and cats and owls- timed to 5 minutes- got to ensure it still feels fresh and engaging and not over rehearsed.
The main thing that came out of this whole experience was being able to play with photography in a new way- as a prop, which i started with erasing a photo of the cat wreath in the Live Art version, but now developed a new perspective. in the live art version, doug had suggested a photo of me and nanny in the photo album to set the scene, which i wasn't sure was needed, but now i can consider, that by doing that non-verbally, what then, doesn't need to be said.
(Thanks to Cat, Lena, Sally B, Lou, Chris)
1.What you liked, enjoyed about my performance
- I thought your performance was really enjoyable and different. I felt like I was swept up in a tangent with you, had no idea where it was leading but with hilarious results! I wasn't sure at first how it was going to come together. What I really enjoyed was the fact that you didn't deliver joke after joke but lead us into a strange narrative and didn't pause for reactions or laughter. Just kept on and we had to listen to keep up. Both halves of the performance were very funny (by the second half we trusted you to continue to be funny).
- liked the keen fashions and taking the mic off the stand. like the storytelling aspect
- it was quirky and very different - opened my eyes up to the bizarre world of wreaths!
MY REFLECTION- definitely like the different comment and strange narrative, tangential- my aim to be! But how to work on this so its kept to time and tangent is still ending up relevant.
2. What you didn't like so much, what could i work on more
- i don't know how to work on it, but it's mainly the nerves. audiences respond well to confidence but often people are shy about laughing - they don't want to laugh when no one else does (well most people) and take their cues from each other and you. if you get up there and believe you're going to make them laugh they start to believe it.
- try not to read out comments. try to memorise them. the funeral wreath photos were bloody funny but reading from notes made it feel a little like reportage rather than a routine. only a little mind - don't think many people would've noticed.
- I think the beginning bit about the owls was weaker than the second half - maybe it needed more explanation
MY REFLECTION- the owl material needed greater embellishing and being more fluid – up the pace- it came out piecemeal due to nerves. The flickr comments were from a page off the internet supposed to reinforce the flickr source but maybe re-think?
3. Did you feel 'in the moment' at any points, if so when more, or if not, when not
- When you were talking about something that made you smile it felt really genuine, you came across as enthusiastic. I felt in the moment when we really began to laugh in the first half, maybe it was when you were talking about granny making her evil smells! And then when you showed the first pictures from flickr.
- not entirely sure what you mean by in the moment but did laugh hard at the funeral stuff. the owls story was funny but more of a smile funny than a chuckle.
- I definitley felt in the moment when you were talking about the wreaths
MY REFLECTION- its about me holding the attention, engaging in what I’m saying or doing- keeping the intrigue
4.The storytelling- structure, fluidity, engagement with it, interest in it
Your pace and enthusiasm seemed better in the second half, you were more confident
-I suppose the beginning is delivered in a surreal story where we have to trust that you are taking us somewhere interesting/funny – when you are funny in a delightfully odd way we are with you. Then you can talk about the nanny/cats and maybe keep this to two funny points, then lead to the tributes and again keep it short and sweet. Hit us with some really funny ones and then leave us laughing!
MY REFLECTION- needs to be tighter, more on the surreal- world’s colliding
5. The stories about granny/owls- any comments good/bad
- It seemed rough, but could work because it helps paint the portrait of
your gran.
- not sure that all of the audience followed this. i liked it but when you go into that level of detail it's something that you need to work more on or even revisit. more stuff about owl wreaths maybe? a mock up of how it would've looked with the ball of wool bum owl?
- I think it was funny but maybe a tad too long about the owls
MY REFLECTION- owls either needs to go or weave into the cat wreath section.
6. I was going to bring out owl ornaments as props/photo of the owls on the toilet shelf- would this have worked/been needed?
I really think you're good with the props and that your relationship to objects and the narratives you build around them is really strong and interesting in both live art and stand up contexts.
- I think it could work, but you'd really have to play with timing, tone, and how you present the objects to us.
- I don't think you needed owl props as I found your description vivid enough. I think most people can bring to mind a similar collection of something in their granny's loos!
- may be a bit fussy to set it all up but might have helped people visualise the different owls
- Yes I think ornaments or pictures would have really helped as it was difficult to imagine which is perhaps why I found it less amusing
MY REFLECTION- Not sure I need to physically visualise everything- needed better storytelling as this could have been too lazy?- leave some parts to mental picture or build up something in a completely different way to what it I then produce it looks like?
7. Stories about nanny/cats- any comments good/bad
- The cat hair on the drink was good and very evocative, can just visualise you and your bro looking at each other while drinking from them. That triggered memories of how awkward you can feel as a kid when something is really grossing you out but you live with it out of politeness.
- cats & nannies always quite funny - especially when both are incontinent. not sure the cat hair round the rim of the glass had a punchline. more of a statement that you got it and your bro didn't. explains the cat hating but maybe could go deeper?
MY REFLECTION- many different reactions to the cat hair part- and for the live art version- needs revisiting- what sort of humour am I exploring? Why?
8. Thoughts on the floral tributes section- what i said about them including use of images, could you see them ok, did they work being held?
- You could cut down some of the comments left by people on flickr and take more time to deliver the ones you leave in. I think it will have more impact if it's short and succinct with fewer examples as the first ones were really hilarious.
-Could see the images very well and I think they enhanced that section. It was something different and we weren't expecting it.
- could see them fine. in that type of environment don't know how else you could do it without causing quite a kerfuffle. you don't want to loose minutes to set up time
MY REFLECTION- yes to keeping it in weaving into the imagery the cat story so whole set has photo element? How to display in the 5 min set??
9. If i was to develop this floral tributes visual section- any suggestions how?
- just work on the pacing. The photos are hilarious. You just need to really practice how, what, and when you comment on them.
- I don't think it needed anything - it was perfect
MY REFLECTION- pacing and review comments- do I need the flickr names?
10. To turn from a 9min to a 5 minute set- which should be definitely kept in and what to lose
- it built up to a peak and guess if you've got stricter time limits next time you'll have to find a way to get there quicker.
- liked the structure but if going to have less time need to compress the first half. it was fluid, with less nerves would be even more so
- Lose the owls if you have to as the wreath stuff was enough material on it's own
MY REFLECTION- if I do something with the owls the worlds colliding needs to be shorter and funnier- weave around the photos, find owl floral tribute?!
11. How i came across as a performer- entrance, across the set, my confidence
-Stage presence - might be interesting to play with extremes a bit more for on stage. There is that difference in proximity. When you do stand-up as with any traditional acting, you have to "play to the back of the house" which means amplifying everything you do so it reads. You had this deadpan, slow, deliberate air about you when you walked up on stage and I was interested to think that you might do a really bored, almost monotone presentation of your cat story. I think that could potentially be really hilarious. Kind of along the lines of when you have your serious air in your closet pieces and look around at the audiences. It might also be interesting to try punctuating that with bits of extreme manic-ness where you talk really fast and/or maybe start pulling lots of tat out of a box or a bag.
- When you came on the stage you moved the mic but I don't think you looked at the audience. So maybe you could look at us and smile if you did that again. You then have our attention and it looks like you're in charge. Once you got into the flow you came across as confident and enjoying the experience. I think you played with your hair a couple of times which betrayed your nerves, if you didn't do that I wouldn't have known.
- good stage presence. a little nervous but that may be cause we're friends. think others only picked up on it when you paused.
- You came across as coolly (is that a word??!) confident and composed....you had a really good dead pan quality....very dry. Nice recovery from corpsing too, you did really well
MY REFLECTION- I was horrifically nervous and glad I did this in the run up to the MA show for confidence building- as relaxed and enjoyed it after a minute! MUST push the deadpan- practice this looking bored- very Martin Parr : |)
12. if you were to describe my stand up persona - what would you say?!
- Your stand up persona is interesting because you started with something quirky where it wasn't clear how we would relate to it, then you won us over through being really funny and then the flickr tributes were a different kind of humour, though still on the quirky animal tip the humour was more mainstream. I think it was interesting to have the two together as it meant I wouldn't always know what to expect from you, wouldn't be able to pigeon hole you. You know sometimes you get quirky female comics who play for laughs either through doing the desperate and slightly scary act or downright weird, yet you were something else, a bit more on our level but with the possibility of going in unexpected tangents.
- persona seemed like you.
- Quirky, off beat, dry, witty
MY REFLECTION- supposed to be me- pleased that came across. The humour being more mainstream with the images needs work- weaving with owls/cats should help. Consider more entrance/exit.
13. Your overall thoughts
- I felt like you really came alive once you had the photos to play off of. Definitely focus on that.
- A flat beginning but after your pause it was hilarious- you were storming!
- I think you have something genuinely funny and different to offer!
- The narrative was really strong.
- great stuff!
- I was very impressed and think you're very brave....and funny too! Well done
MY REFLECTION OVERALL:
My aim was to try out and expand on the MA show material, explore spontaneity, intimacy, being in the moment. Lots to take form this gig, to refine for the second one on 21st August. A woven tale of imagery and cats and owls- timed to 5 minutes- got to ensure it still feels fresh and engaging and not over rehearsed.
The main thing that came out of this whole experience was being able to play with photography in a new way- as a prop, which i started with erasing a photo of the cat wreath in the Live Art version, but now developed a new perspective. in the live art version, doug had suggested a photo of me and nanny in the photo album to set the scene, which i wasn't sure was needed, but now i can consider, that by doing that non-verbally, what then, doesn't need to be said.
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